Thursday, November 15, 2012

Robert De Niro New York Times Interview 11/15/12


For a person of my generation, it pretty much goes without saying that Robert De Niro is the finest screen actor of his. To be a movie-besotted adolescent in the ’70s and early ’80s was to experience, in real time and at an impressionable age, performances that would go on to become icons and monuments. ‘‘This kid doesn’t just act — he takes off into the vapors,’’ wrote Pauline Kael in her review of ‘‘Mean Streets.’’ Not that there was anything airy or abstract about what he was doing, which was transforming himself — physically, vocally, psychologically — with each new role. And in the process, before our eyes, reinventing the art of acting.

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There was a time when De Niro was everywhere, assuming a new shape in every film. Maybe it seems that way to me because my own catch-up viewing, in a golden moment when both video stores and revival houses flourished, coincided with an especially productive period in his career. In any case, I remember — and still treasure — De Niro in Elia Kazan’s adaptation of ‘‘The Last Tycoon,’’ in Bernardo Bertolucci’s ‘‘1900,’’ in ‘‘Brazil,’’ in ‘‘The King of Comedy’’ and ‘‘New York, New York’’ and, and, and . . . at least a dozen more movies that I won’t try your patience by listing here.
I confess, however, that it took all my professional discipline to resist squandering the time I spent with De Niro on a recent Saturday afternoon in a slack-jawed fanboy recitation of his greatest hits. Oh, my God, you’re Jake LaMotta! You’re Johnny Boy! You’re Travis Bickle! I’m talking to you.
To the younger generation, though, he is most recognizably Jack Byrnes, Ben Stiller’s impossible father-in-law in the ‘‘Fockers’’ franchise. And as the reliable heavy in a steady stream of action movies and crime dramas, some (but not all) of them quite good. It has become fashionable to suggest that De Niro’s best work is behind him. But nostalgia is a vice, and a survey of the last four decades of movie history reveals that De Niro has never slackened, diminished or gone away but has rather, year in and year out, amassed a body of work marked by a seriousness and attention to detail that was there from the start.
So let’s not herald his new movie, ‘‘Silver Linings Playbook,’’ as a comeback or a return to form. He has been here, more often than not in top form, the whole time. But ‘‘Silver Linings,’’ directed by David O. Russell and based on a novel by Matthew Quick, is nonetheless something special — an anarchic comedy in which De Niro plays a wild, funny and touching variation on the difficult-father theme. His character, Pat  Solitano Sr., is a Philadelphia Eagles fanatic whose dream of domestic peace is undermined by his emotionally unstable son (Bradley Cooper) and his own volatility.
Pat Solitano is a reminder that De Niro, an unmatched master of brooding silence and quiet menace, can also be an agile comedian and a prodigious talker. On-screen, anyway. He has a reputation among journalists for sometimes extreme reticence, and the role of celebrity interview subject is not one he is known to relish. In our conversation, which took place in his TriBeCa office, he did not put on the smooth bonhomie that is the default setting for off-duty movie stars in the company of writers. He sat with his feet planted on the floor and his hands flat on the arms of a deep leather chair, and the answers to my questions did not always come readily or easily. It seemed like work.
Why shouldn’t it have? Nothing about De Niro’s approach to acting, as evident in nearly a hundred movies so far, should lead anyone to expect glib insights or ready answers. That wasn’t what I was looking for, any more than I wanted a glimpse of the ‘‘real’’ Travis Bickle or Jack Byrnes or Pat Solitano or any of the others. But I was curious about where they had come from or, more precisely, how they had come to be. I was looking for clues, chasing after vapors, interested in doing the job of talking to an actor about his.

SCOTT: Let’s start with “Silver Linings Playbook” and working with the director David O. Russell. How did that come about?

ROBERT DE NIRO: I knew David before, and I’d seen one or two of his other movies, and then I saw “The Fighter,” and I thought it was terrific. And then this came along, and I don’t know whether I read the book before I read the script — but either way, he changed it, obviously, from the book. The book was interesting, the character was interesting, but it was the reverse of the way he is in David’s version.
INTERVIEW HAS BEEN CONDENSED AND EDITED.
A. O. Scott is a chief film critic at The New York Times.
Editor: Adam Sternbergh
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    • Barbara Ellen Norman
    • Terre Haute IN
    Dustin Hoffman comes to mind as a person who broke molds and created "real" characters. . .people who remind you of "real" people. DeNiro is fabulous!
      • HB
      • Tega Cay, SC
      Great job A.O. Bob really seems to open up to you. Wish the interview was longer!
        • Robert Dorff
        • Los Angeles
        There's nothing more to say, except I wish we had some more like him.
          • LillienW
          • Detroit, MI
          I think part of what people misunderstand about Robert De Niro is that no one did what he did before he did it. There were, to be sure, many other fine actors, who were, in their own way, original. But not quite him. I remember what it was like to be a cinemaphile and to have never seen anything quite like a De Niro performance. Perhaps so many are nonplussed by the accolades he still receives for early work--and let's face it, if he had never made another film after Raging Bull, he'd be assured a spot in the pantheon--because we've seen so many replicas and ripoffs since then. Daniel Day-Lewis, for example, owes a lot to De Niro, and that's a part of why De Niro is great. He can rest on his laurels because there are other actors who take their cues from his performances, his work ethic, and his (actor's) world view. Who cares if he's resting on his laurels? Mean Streets, and Taxi Driver, and Raging Bull, and Goodfellas are the gifts that keep on giving.
            • FFILMSINC
            • NY
            My first New York film audition was on Dec 5, 1980 - for Robert Deniro and Martin Scorsese for the film "King of Comedy". The audition took place at the Rolex building here in Manhattan. When I walked into the audition room, Deniro stood up (looking so handsome) and shook my hand, he was gracious and warm towards me. I told him how much I loved his work in Raging Bull, he told me to call him Bob, he was a sweetheart, he made me feel at ease. He was kind and helpful with notes and direction and had me do the scenes several times over again, both he and Scorsese, would mumble words to each other in between my audition. It was a surreal experience. Over the years I would bump into Bob at the Actors Studio and various film events, and he made a point of congratulating me on a film I had directed and we would laugh about the first time I met him. For me Bob finest work was: Bang the Drum Slowly, Taxi Driver, Godfather 2, Deer Hunter, Raging Bull and Midnight Run (an underrated performance). I don't think comedy roles are his natural strength and I would like to see him go back to his roots and explore again playing those complex troubled characters, its these types of roles that highlight his great strengths as an actor. Bob will always be number ONE in my books and he is still to this day, easy on the eyes!
              • Caroline
              • Los Angeles
              He's my favorite actor. Thanks for writing about him. How soon we forget.
                • Mitch
                • Minkowsky
                The best...period.
                  • Lynn in DC
                  • Um, DC
                  "We're No Angels" is my favorite De Niro movie. I saw "Silver Linings...." as part of some sort of focus group screening and didn't care for it at all. I don't know, maybe DeNiro still has college tuitions to pay.
                    • Amphiuma
                    • Salt Lake City, Utah
                    You talkin' to me?
                      • Judith Beatty
                      • Santa Fe NM
                      Max Cady -- Cape Fear. Unforgettable.
                        • Peter Garcia
                        • NYC
                        He only acts to get paid millions so he can buy up as much real estate in Manhattan as possible . Sad.
                        between him, Pacino, and Dustin Hoffman, it goes without saying ,they are only in for the money at this point.
                        Pacino still has the cahones to try something different once in awhile but he has returned to Broadway in aboring familiar role for the paycheck.
                        Private schools for all their born late in life kids is very expensive too.
                          • Paul
                          • Manchester, UK
                          Brilliant Interview, such a diverse actor.
                            • Netanel2b
                            • New York
                            No mention of "Once Upon a Time in America"? Great film. Great DeNiro performance.
                            "So what have you been doing all these years, Noodles?"
                            "Mo, I've been going to bed early."
                              • Suzinne B.
                              • Bronx
                              Robert DeNiro always looked so perturbed in all his photographs. Is life not good enough, Bobby?
                                • Roy Zornow
                                • New York City
                                ".....a survey of the last four decades of movie history reveals that De Niro has never slackened, diminished or gone away but has rather, year in and year out, amassed a body of work marked by a seriousness and attention to detail that was there from the start."

                                This reads like studio pabulum. You are comparing the "Fokkers" saga to "Mean Streets", "Taxi Driver", "The Godfather Part II", "Raging Bull" and "Deer Hunter"? Kael is spinning in her grave.
                                  • Sixofone
                                  • The Village
                                  "For a person of my generation, it pretty much goes without saying that Robert De Niro is the finest screen actor of his."

                                  ...generation?

                                  The NY Times used to employ the finest copy editors of their generation. Where are they now? Lead sentence. Wow.
                                    • DCC
                                    • NYC
                                    Such a treat to read an interview with Robert De Niro that wasn't really brief. What a marvelous actor! Thank-you for all the great times we have had watching you act.
                                      • Paul King
                                      • SF
                                      If you want to be even more discomforted than his role in Cape Fear, try "This Boy's Life" with De Niro as a very itchy, immature and abusive step father to an amazingly capable young actor named Leonardo DiCaprio (talk about natural talent... my God!)
                                      Not to mention Ellen Barkin as the mom.

                                      It's a great one. Nuanced and also raw. Just strap in for emotional ride.
                                      Here's a link.

                                      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108330/

                                      And after, you may add this as a De Niro classic line - "Shut your pie hole!"
                                        • rita eubank
                                        • hollywood
                                        CASINO
                                        WAG THE DOG
                                          • Marcia
                                          • Connecticut
                                          Like Velma Hart who admonished President Obama a few years ago, I was at the end of my rope waiting for a good De Niro movie. Mr. De Niro, I was tired "of defending you." With each Focker movie that came out, friends would point their fingers and laugh at my allegiance. Thank goodness you are back!
                                            • Joe Colletti
                                            • NY
                                            Bobby, you the man!
                                              • Goodman
                                              • The West
                                              Would love to read the unedited version of this interview. I've always wanted to know what RD's favorite films were and his thoughts on specific roles he has played. This was an excellent overview but it made me hungry for more as it sounds like once you get RD going he opens up quite well. My personal favorites of his would go all the way back to Greetings/Hi Mom for Brian DiPalma, King Of Comedy, Angel Heart, Midnight Run and Ronin on top of the usual classic picks of Taxi Driver, Godfather 2 and Mean Streets. Also his bit in Jackie Brown, my favorite Tarantino film in an underrated classic! Long live DeNiro, perhaps the greatest actor of any generation!!!
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                                                • usa
                                                simply the best.
                                                  • rw
                                                  • NJ
                                                  "I'm hip."
                                                    • loisa
                                                    • new york
                                                    He was a great actor... Then just grabbed at everything, with evident hunger for money.

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